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WEDNESDAY, MAY 23, 2007

Recently I was looking for a new tenant for a single family home that was going to be vacant in about a month’s time. The house is in the back of a quiet cul-de-sac, so I spoke to a neighbor a couple of houses over on a busy corner and paid her $20 bucks to put a “For Rent” sign with my phone number in her front yard.

It’s a popular area so I got lots of calls. Some of them, of course, were from Realtors who wanted to help me lease the house. I like developing relationships with Realtors (as I’ll explain below) so I agreed to meet one. She rolled up on Saturday afternoon in a massive shiny SUV with a magnetized sign featuring a large glossy portrait of her smiling face.

She took a look at the place, declared that she thought she could help me, and explained that the charge would be one month’s rent plus a $150 listing fee. And free of charge she offered me lots of advice, like check the applicant’s credit and make sure the property is clean before you show it and call the applicant’s references before signing a contract.

She called me the following Tuesday to see if I was ready to list the property with her, but by then I already had it leased out myself.  This particular unit rented for $1,250/month, so I saved myself a total of $1,400.  Well, $1,380, including the $20 bucks I gave the neighbor to allow me to put the sign up. 

Realtors can offer a lot of value to investors…

…it’s just that your needs are different than the needs of standard consumers.

What the standard consumer wants What you, the investor, need
Service: The Realtor guides the homebuyer through a scary and unfamiliar process. Helps them to make a tough, life changing decision. This is personalized, time consuming attention. Service: You’re an investor. You don’t need reassurance and you don’t need to be chauffeured around town in comfort; you need someone who can open the front door when you want to see a property, and make sure the paperwork happens right and on time.
Advice: The average homebuyer does not buy/sell a house frequently, and therefore will not have a good checklist of things to consider. A Realtor will help the consumer prioritize, organize, and make a good decision. This requires a lot of personal attention.

Advice: It’s probable that you have a lot more experience transacting real estate deals than the average consumer. You don’t need generic pointers. What you do need is the straight dope about what’s happening now in the market.

If you’re like the majority of investors you’re a part-timer. Realtors are full timers, and may have better info than you on what the city’s planning for that proposed light rail station or the next school zone redistricting than you do.

When your Realtor has a tip, you want him to take a moment to give you call.

Buying: The average homebuyer is looking her dream home, and many look to a Realtor to help her find it. Buying: There are exceptions, but my experience is that Realtors don’t bring many deals. And anything a Realtor points out on MLS you could have found yourself.
Selling: Selling your home is an emotional process. A Realtor will help the customer make objective decisions. And if she’s good she won’t be shy about telling the seller that the “artistic” color scheme he's using in the bedroom is going to scare off potential buyers. Working with sellers takes patience, people skills, and time. Selling: Selling an investment is an economic decision. Get it clean. Use neutral colors. Price it consistent with the market. And it’s easier to show once the tenant is out. You already know this stuff. What you really need is simply for someone to get your joint onto MLS so people can find it.
Negotiations: When it comes to negotiating a purchase or a sale, one of the Realtor’s main jobs is to save the client from his own temper/ego/impatience. The Realtor is the buffer, sets the strategy, paces the negotiation and gets the client to closing. Negotiations: Any investor worth is salt will be a better-than-average negotiator. And if you’re a better-than-average negotiator, then the more intermediaries and middlemen are in the way the more difficult it will be for you to execute a strategy. This is something you should want to do yourself.

Bottom line: your needs, as an investor, are different than Joe Homebuyer’s needs.

There are three ways that Realtors will tend to react to this:

  • Offer the same package of “value” that they offer to the general consumer and insist that you pay what the general consumer pays. You’ll get the “my services are worth it” angle from these Realtors. But that’s like arguing that a circular saw is worth fifty bucks: it might be worth that and more, but if the job calls for a drill then you’re paying for the wrong tool. Verdict: wrong answer.
  • Offer you the “investor services” that fit the value drivers on the right hand side of the table above, but insist that you pay the same rate that they charge for the suite of services on the left. This is an “entitlement” mentality; the agent feels that his fee isn’t for service rendered, it’s for having his expertise supporting your deal. If you’re an investor this isn’t reasoning that you should accept. You should pay for the time and effort that agent puts into the deal; if you’re doing much of the heavy lifting then you shouldn’t pay the same as the next guy who buys a property once every other decade and needs his hand held through the entire transaction. Verdict: wrong answer.
  • Offer you the “investor services” that fit the value drivers on the right hand side of the table above, and charge you appropriately. This…by process of elimination…is the “right answer.”

So, what does “charge you appropriately” mean? You’re the negotiator and so is your Realtor – sit down and work it out!

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Comments(11)
posted by: Chris Smith
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May 24, 2007
12:27 PM
I agree wholeheartedly when you say "your needs, as an investor, are different than Joe Homebuyer’s needs." That's something I've noticed about agents in my area: they are totally inept at helping investors. Most of the time they can't tell me what the real expenses of a property are (because they don't know, not because the seller is trying to hide anything). They also almost never make an attempt to help a seller price a property based on cap rates or any kind of financial performance. The price of the average home may have gone up, but what the agents actually do for you hasn't changed at all. They still get/split 6%, which is then an increasing amount of cash. Why do they deserve more money? Having the property listed on the MLS is becoming less and less important, too. There are a million ways to make a property available online so that others can find it. Sometimes working with agents is necessary. I know a couple of agents that are actually investors, too. That is always helpful. It one thing to know about buying and selling houses. It's another to really know what makes a good investment. Sorry, that's kind of a rant, but you did bring up some good points...
May 24, 2007
04:42 PM
Bryce

Thanks for your comment. A rant is ok sometimes...you gotta let it all out.

The big issue here is simply that most agents don't differentiate between the needs of an investor and the needs of other clients. It's not that agents don't work hard, it's that they'll offer you things that don't add value and expect to get paid for it. Investors need to seek out agents who know investors

As for MLS, however, I think you're dead in the water if you're selling a property without being in the system - but the consumer is starting to get more options in this respect as well.
May 25, 2007
01:39 PM
That anecdote played out like a cartoon in my head. That REALTOR sounds like a caricature of herself... or of so many in this profession! The advice, in particular, is classic. It all drives home the old adage, "Know your audience". It is so great to have an investor's perspective to learn from. Thanks, Chris.
May 27, 2007
10:10 PM
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June 01, 2007
10:19 PM
Hi Chris, I saw some of your blogs on active rain. I was impressed. I am a new real estate agent who can't get it out of her head that she wants to work with investors. I feel that there is much opportunity for growth where I am. I studied your list and the blog about speculation vs investing. I actually used a bit of that today when talking with a novice investor that I work with. I think the housing market here is out of balance with the commercial opportunities and have done some research to show that we need more commercial to be able to sell the new homes.Now I just need to find the investors and have them listen. I've posted tidbits on my blog www.searizona.blogspot.com I also plan on hanging around a bit to learn from you. peace, Mary Ann
June 02, 2007
01:07 PM
MaryAnn: I think that investors present a great opportunity for realtors. I'm glad to have you as a reader and hope you stick around!
June 04, 2007
09:22 PM
Impressive article. This is really very useful especially to some real estate agent. Can you help me find any online tenerife estate agent?? My family is planning to move in Spain. We still have problems about where to get an agent. We have some difficulty about buying property in spain. I'll be dropping by here soon and check out some of your new articles.
June 05, 2007
01:36 AM
Wow Chris you have just done in one post what I have been trying to explain for 4 months over at my blog. Great job. Fred De La Riva
October 18, 2007
10:07 PM
Fantastic post Chris. I have been working with investors in the Portland OR market for about a year now quickly fell in love with the investor mindset. Keep up the great work!
May 08, 2009
04:49 AM
The price of the average home may have gone up, but what the agents actually do for you hasn't changed at all. They still get/split 6%, which is then an increasing amount of cash. Why do they deserve more money?
July 03, 2009
03:21 AM
Good post, keep up the good work.
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