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FRIDAY, JULY 06, 2007

There’s no getting around it; investing in real estate means dealing with people. Building skills as a negotiator is the most important part of being successful as an investor.

Philosophers from Machiavelli to Rousseau have debated human nature, and although I’ve run across more than my fair share of jerks in my time I nonetheless reject the Machiavellian view of human nature as fundamentally dishonest and mean spirited. The guy you’re negotiating a sale with isn’t out to get you. That contractor you’re haggling with isn’t stupid or evil. People might act in ways that are fearful or greedy, but in my view most people aren't bad.  So I see it, a critical key to being a successful negotiator is initiative, backed by fearless, transparent honesty. But it this only works if you have a plan...

Not too long ago I was involved in a major corporate merger and had an interaction with a senior executive who was a direct party to the negotiations. He declared “well we all agree on everything…except for the price.” There’s a lot to that simple statement – that bottom line dollar figure can make people act in strange ways. A dollar figure is hard and concrete – you can get your head around it. But often the price is just the catalyst for conflict and the real concerns lie beneath.

In my experience, the biggest concern that the person on the other side of the table has is that she'll be taken advantage of. She can probably live with a 10% increase or decrease in the price...but she can’t live with looking foolish. Therein lies your challenge.

:: Example

I recently purchased a multi-family property. I made an offer and contentious back-and-forth ensued .  Finally we had an agreement, pending inspections. This was a tough process and it took a lot of work to get to a price that worked for me and which the sellers could accept.

Then: the inspection. I use a guy named Robert Goodspeed . He’s ruthless but fair. Meticulously thorough. If there is a nail out of place he’ll note it. I love working with Robert – if there’s something wrong he’ll find it.  I can negotiate with confidence when I have a Goodspeed inspection report in my hand, and that makes me a repeat customer. 

Now aside from a long laundry list of minor items this particular building was in solid shape. But there were three items of concern that Robert noted:

  • Pier and beam foundation had recently been repaired. There wasn’t necessarily an immediate problem, but we needed to ensure that the work had been done correctly.
  • There were some electrical problems in one of the units, the breaker tripped while we were inspecting
  • The elevated back deck (over the carport) was not up to code with regards to the railing.

I sent the Goodspeed report and the list of three items that I needed to have repaired.  Predictably, the sellers freaked.

:: Getting into the sellers’ heads

At this point it would have been easy enough for the various personalities to take over the negotiation; for us both to cross our arms and let the deal die. What I try to do in these situations is try to put myself in the other guy’s shoes.

What I’m thinking What I think the other guy is thinking

I want for the final price to reflect the deal I thought I was getting into before the inspection.

I’m not using the inspection as a negotiation tool. I’m using the inspection to ensure that I don’t run into any surprises later. That’s what the option period is for.

This is about mitigating risk, not sweetening the deal.

This guy is trying to screw me.

He agreed to a price but now he’s trying to get more concessions out of me.

I’ve already insisted that the agreed price is as low as I can go – if I give in I’ll be humiliated.

Time to take the initiative and take control of the discussion.  The key, in this case, was to give the seller a way to save face and keep the deal moving forward. To do this I emphasized not our respective positions (“fix it!” “no, I won’t fix it!”) but the principle at stake: in this case the purpose and intent of the option period.

I didn’t want money – I wanted assurances that everything was as they had represented it when they offered the property. The sellers cooled down. They brought out some certified, licensed inspectors: a structural engineer and an electrician.

The foundation, as it turns out, was rock solid. The electrician found a couple of problems – nothing major. And since the seller uncovered these problems with their contractor (who I approved) it was not contentious to get them to pay for the repairs. The railing on the back deck I agreed to pay for – this was an item I could have identified by site via my pre-offer casual inspection, and it was only a $1,000 item.

The seller’s initial reaction and refusal to budge was a reaction based in fear. Fear of being treated unfairly. Fear of looking foolish. And that reaction could have easily triggered a fearful reaction in me: these guys are trying to hide something! They’re out to get me! Too risky...no deal!

But by putting myself in the other guy’s shoes I was able to efficiently get to a fair solution and acquire a great property.

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posted by: Chris Smith
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July 07, 2007
04:54 PM
Chris - You are simply amazing. Another great post. Understanding your opposite is key to anything in life, especially negotiations.

People tend to look at negotiations as someone wins and someone loses. I just don't get that. There has to be ground where both parties can feel a fair value has been reached. Or the deal probably shouldn't have been done in the first place.
July 07, 2007
05:27 PM
Thanks Chris…it’s great to have you as a reader!

Now I’m going to annoy you by disagreeing with part of your comment. In my book there is no such thing as a “win-win” negotiation. Yes, the deal will only be consummated if it’s in the best interest of both parties overall, but when you’re negotiating any particular point you’re trying to get the other guy to do something he doesn’t want to. In this case I wanted the seller to assume all of the risk and expense of any foundation and electrical repairs. The seller gave me a flat “no” when I wanted to hear “yes”.

This wasn’t a tradeoff. I needed to “win” this round in order to make the deal work. So, yeah, the seller had to “lose”. But…by approaching it in the right way – focusing on the principles at stake (definition and intent of the option period) I was able to show that there was a legitimate rationale behind my demand. And even though the seller initially got pissed off he eventually came around and paid for inspections and the electrical work that resulted.

Now…had the inspection uncovered some problems w/ the foundation this would have opened up a whole new can of worms. But by then by having had the seller pay for the inspection based on the principles of the option period a powerful precedent would have been set for him to assume this cost as well.

In the end, though, the resolution of the conflict was *fair*. The seller was satisfied with the price he received. So you could call the overall deal a win-win, I suppose, but when you get down to the details you’re splitting a pie – and whatever pieces you don’t successfully negotiate to your side the other guy will end up with!
July 08, 2007
03:19 AM
Just stopping by to read your post for Carnival of Real Estate.

This is an excellent description for good negotiating. I appreciated it.
July 08, 2007
03:21 AM
Oh...one more thing. The seller really didn't "lose". He sold his property which was his ultimate goal. So it still was a win-win.

I always describe a successful transaction one in which the seller and the buyer are both happy at the closing table.
July 08, 2007
10:18 AM
Marty: Hi...thanks for stopping by.

And yes - as for "win win" I largely agree with you (and with Chris, for that matter). I think that this was a good deal because it was fair and benefited both parties.

But...unfortunately sometimes you strike a fair deal that benefits both parties and one of those parties shows up mad as a hornet. Or, you could have two happy campers at closing even though one of them is getting taken to the cleaners.

Thanks to you and Chris for your comments, by the way. I'm writing a series of posts on negotiation and input/comments/criticism from other practitioners out there helps shape my thoughts!
July 08, 2007
05:26 PM
Hey Chris,

While I see that you think you are disagreeing with me you are in fact seeing it the way I do. Maybe it's the terminology we both choose. Because I hate the word "fair."

Neither side should advance beyond their given parameters in a negotiation. But most people enter negotiations without knowing the end result they can live with. They have an idea. A range. Whether I represent buyer, seller or myself my job is to get to the most advantageous part of that range for me or my client. Or below/above, whatever.

But the point is an average negotiator will seldom have an idea of whether they could have gotten more or less. That's why some get taken to the cleaners. :)

Lastly, win-win, fair...whatever...the key is approach. Everyone got what they wanted or the deal wouldn't have closed. Simple as that.

Anyway, great comments by all. I look forward to the rest of the series.
July 08, 2007
05:29 PM
By the way, you could also tie in ego here. You certainly address part of the ego with this post. I would be interested in your thoughts or is that a future part of the series?
July 08, 2007
06:29 PM
Thanks Chris. As topics go negotiation is a sticky one. I'll talk more in a future post about why I don't like the term "win win", and also about fear and ego...you're stealing my thunder!
July 30, 2007
06:24 PM
Hi Chris,
Great post, sorry it took me so long to get to it. Negotiating is for me the most difficult part of my new career as a real estate agent. I do try to see considerations often as something other than a monetary value. It seems to me in those instances my clients or customers get less freaked out. Emphasizing the principle at stake ...that being the inspection period, not the price, is how I understood you worked that situation.

Thanks for the post, negotiating is a difficult part of this job and there is not much training out there for it.

peace,
Mary Ann
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